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Top Stories of 2019: #3 and #2 | The Line

Top Stories of 2019: #3 and #2 | The Line


>>WELCOME BACK TO THE LINE
TABLE, COMPLETE WITH ALL JOURNALIST FOR A SPECIAL YEAR
IN REVIEW COUNTDOWN. COMING IN NO. 3 OF THE TOP
STORY OF 2019, THE ENERGY TRANSITION ACT, LANDMARK
LEGISLATION DESIGNED TO MOVE THE STATE TO RENEWABLE ENERGY
SOURCES AND INCLUDES EVENTUAL CLOSING OF THE GENERATING
STATION IN THE FOUR CORNERS. UNDER THE PLAN UTILITIES HAVE
UNTIL 2045 TO BE COMPLETELY CARBON FREE, RURAL COMPANIES
HAVE BEEN TOLD 2050. ADMIRABLE GOAL NOT WITHOUT
CHALLENGES. WHAT DO YOU SEE HERE?>>IT IS NOT WITHOUT
CHALLENGES AT ALL. EVERYBODY LIKES WIND AND SOLAR
AND EVERYTHING BUT THE PROBLEM OF COURSE WITH DEVELOPING A
LOT MORE WIND POWER IS WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT
TRANSITION LINES. THEY TAKE FOREVER TO BUILD,
THERE IS A MASSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE —
>>HAVE YOU REPORTED ON THAT THIS YEAR?>>NOT THAT I KNOW OF, BUT I
HAVEN’T BEEN FOLLOWING IT THAT CLOSELY. IT IS JUST THAT NOBODY WANTS
TRANSITION LINE IN THEIR BACKWARD BUT THEY ALL WANT
WIND POWER, VERY FEW PEOPLE WANT TO SEE WIND TURBINES. WE HAVE TO GET OVER SOME OF
THE NIMBY ISSUES THAT THIS IS GOING TO PRESENT.>>IT WAS A TOP PRIORITY, NO
DOUBT ABOUT THAT AS THE GOVERNOR AND DEMOCRATIC
LEADERSHIP. POWER STRUGGLES WITH THE
PUBLIC REGULATION COMMISSION. I FIND THIS PART OF IT
INTERESTING. WHO DO YOU SEE THAT LITTLE
SCRUM PLAYING OUT HERE?>>WELL, THE PRC IS ALWAYS
SORT OF ITS OWN. STEVE CAN COVER THIS. STEVE AND GWYNETH TOO, BUT I
THINK THEY ARE JUST — I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE POWER
STRUGGLE BETWEEN PRC AND ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF THE PRC. THEY DON’T LIKE IT WHEN
SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, I KNOW YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO
REGULATE THIS BUT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.>>GO RIGHT TO YOU, HOW DO YOU
SEE THAT PLAYING OUT?>>LIKE ANDY ALLUDED, IT IS A
WEIRD LITTLE TURF WAR. OF COURSE, ONE WAY IT MAY PLAY
OUT, THERE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ON NEXT YEARS BALLOT
TO MAKE THE PRC AN APPOINTED BODY, SO —
>>LET’S PLAY THE ASSUMPTION GAME. ASSUMING THAT PASSES, HOW DOES
THAT CHANGE THINGS IN THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH ETA AND THE
PRC AND THE GOVERNOR?>>WELL, OBVIOUSLY I THINK THE
GOVERNOR WILL HAVE A LOT MORE CONTROL SO I AM NOT SURE HOW
IT WOULD WORK IF THERE IS FIVE MEMBERS THE GOVERNOR APPOINTS.>>NOT SURE MYSELF.>>OR THE LEGISLATURE APPOINTS
SOME. I AM NOT SURE.>>APPOINTS ACROSS THE BOARD,
MAYBE.>>I HAVE SEEN BILLS LIKE
THAT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT GOES
TO THE VOTERS, THOUGH, SO, I PREDICTED JUST BECAUSE OF THE
HISTORY OF THE PRC, RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY, THEY WILL SAY, YEAH,
YOU KNOW, WE NEED A BIG CHANGE HERE.>>JESSICA, HOW DO YOU SEE
THAT. POTENTIALLY IF THE PRC DOES IN
FACT HAVE THOSE CHANGES, VOTERS ARE GOING TO BE
TOUCHING ON, HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF THE
ETA?>>SO, IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
SOMETHING THAT IS MEANT TO PROTECT END USERS, RIGHT, IN
THE LONG RUN, I THINK FOR ME IT IS ABOUT ASKING THE HARD
QUESTION OF WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT GOING TO
BE. NOW IF IT IS AN APPOINTED
BODY, ARE THEY ANSWERING TO THE PUBLIC OR ARE THEY
ANSWERING TO THE PERSON WHO APPOINTED THEM? OVERALL, YOU KNOW, I THINK NOT
EVERYDAY JOE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE WAY IT WORKS. THERE IS A LOT OF LACK OF
EDUCATION ON THE VOTER SIDE OF WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE TALKING
ABOUT AS WELL. THAT MAY BE A KEY.>>I’M LAUGHING IN MY HEAD,
BECAUSE NO ONE REALLY KNOWS HOW THE PRC WORKS. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR LEVEL OF
EXPERTISE.>>YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.>>GWYNETH, THE IDEA THIS
CONSTITUTIONAL BALLOT, TOUCH ON THIS TOO, FORECASTING
AHEAD, ASSUMING SUCCESS THAT THE PRC IS, IN FACT, GOING TO
BE REFORMATTED SOMEHOW, THE ETA FELT LIKE IT WAS SORT OF
FORCED ON THE PRC, THIS CURRENT KIND OF MAKEUP, I
WONDER WHAT THE ATTITUDE MIGHT BE WITH AN APPOINTED BODY. ARE THEY COMING IN WITH
MARCHING ORDERS SAYING YOU MUST SUPPORT THIS?>>YEAH, I MEAN, I HAVE
COVERED A LOT OF THE STRUGGLES THAT THE PRC HAS HAD FOR A
LONG TIME. THERE IS ALWAYS THIS TENSION
BETWEEN AN APPOINTED BODY OR AN ELECTED BODY WE SAY IS MORE
RESPONSIVE TO THE PEOPLE BUT VERY FEW PEOPLE CARE AT ALL
ABOUT THE PRC AND TEND TO ELECT PEOPLE WHOSE NAME IS
VAGUELY FAMILIAR. WE DID INCREASE THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE QUALIFICATIONS FIVE OR SIX
YEARS AGO, BUT HISTORICALLY IT’S BEEN EXTREMELY LOW FOR A
BODY THAT REGULATES COMPLICATED ISSUES. MY SUSPICION IS AN APPOINTED
BOARD — THE APPOINTMENTS WOULD DRAW MORE ATTENTION AND
THE CANDIDATES WOULD BE MORE HIGHLY QUALIFIED BECAUSE MORE
PEOPLE WOULD PAY ATTENTION ACROSS THE STATE. AND I THINK THAT THEY MIGHT BE
MORE ACCOUNTABLE AND I THINK WITH A GREATER — WITH A
GREATER EXPERIENCE IN THE ISSUES THAT I HOPE THEY WOULD
HAVE, THAT THEY WOULD NOT COME IN WITH SPECIFIC MARCHING
ORDERS. THAT IS MY HOPE.>>STEVE, WE TALKED AT THIS
TABLE ABOUT THE IDEA OF WHAT CONSTITUTES EXPERIENCE AND HOW
ONE GETS CHOSEN FOR THESE THINGS. YOU CAN SEE WITH THE GOVERNOR,
THIS WOMAN HAS THIS SET OF SKILLS, THIS GUY HAS THIS SET
OF SKILLS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I MEAN. YOU GO DOWN THE LINE, BUT HOW
DO WE REALLY KNOW WHAT MAKES UP A GOOD PRC? I HAVE WONDERED THAT ACTUALLY. WHAT IS A PERFECT BACKGROUND?>>I AM STILL WONDERING. YOU KNOW, SUSANA MARTINEZ’
GREATEST APPOINTMENT DURING HER ENTIRE EIGHT YEARS AS
GOVERNOR, IN MY VIEW, SHE APPOINTED A REPLACEMENT FOR
JEROME BLOCK, JR. AND, OF COURSE, WHO COMMITTED FELONIES
AND SHE APPOINTED A GUY, A REGISTERED INDEPENDENT, NAMED
DOUG HOWE. HE IS VERY WELL VERSED IN
ENVIRONMENTAL LAW. AND HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS GOING
TO RUN FOR PRC NEXT YEAR AND THEN DECIDED AGAINST IT. BUT HE WAS SUSANA’S GREATEST
APPOINTMENT. SO, GOVERNOR — AND ONE
COMMENT, SHE HAD A LOT OF REPUBLICANS TUGGING ON HER
SAYING, HEY, PICK ME, BUT –>>THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW
TRICKY THIS CAN BE.>>FINISH WITH THIS, ONE OF
THE THINGS I WANTED TO KIND OF SET UP WHEN I ASKED THAT
QUESTION OF STEVE, WITH THIS NEW PRC MAKEUP, THE IDEA THAT
INDUSTRY WAS A LITTLE TOO CLOSE TO THE DECISION MAKING
ON THE ETA.>>YES.>>HOW THAT ATTITUDE FOR THESE
NEW MEMBERS IS GOING TO BE ON THAT ISSUE ALONE. KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HARD TO PREDICT. I AM NOT ASKING FOR A
PREDICTION BUT IT IS A REAL THING THAT WILL ADD ON IT
THERE.>>WE CAN ALL BE VERY
UNCOMFORTABLE WITH HOW IT FEELS TO HAVE INDUSTRY TO
CLOSE TO ANY DECISION-MAKING BODY, ESPECIALLY A PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THAT HELPS DEFINE WHAT OUR STATE LOOKS LIKE FOR
A LONG TIME TO COME. THERE EXISTS A LOT OF
UNCOMFORTABLE FEELINGS AROUND THE THOUGHT THAT IF THIS PIECE
OF LEGISLATION WAS PUT TOGETHER WITH THE HAND OF
INDUSTRY, WHAT IS TO STOP THEM FROM APPOINTING A BODY THAT
ALSO IS REFLECTIVE OF THE INDUSTRY AND INDUSTRY NEEDS
RATHER THAN THE EVERYDAY NEEDS OF NEW MEXICANS.>>VERY WELL SAID. INTERESTING, YOU’RE RIGHT TO
BE WORRIED.>>ANDY, PICK UP ON THAT IF
YOU WOULD, THIS IDEA OF MAKING UP THIS BODY. WE ARE A LONG WAY DOWN THE
ROAD, DON’T GET ME WRONG, I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT NOW.>>I AM CONCERNED FOR PEOPLE
THAT LIVE LIKE IN JESSICA’S NEIGHBORHOOD OR AREA OF THE
STATE, CARLSBAD, AND RURAL AREAS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
APPOINTMENTS, GENERALLY HOW THESE APPOINTMENTS WORK IN
OTHER CASES IS THAT AT THE TIME GOVERNOR, WHOEVER IS IN
CHARGE OF IT — THEY ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW EVERYONE AROUND
THE STATE. YOU KIND OF GET THE WORD FROM
THIS DISTRICT, THIS IS A GOOD PERSON HERE AND HERE. THAT IS REALLY A GOOD PERSON
FOR THE DISTRICT, I DON’T KNOW. IT DOES BECOME VERY POLITICAL.>>THE RENEWABLE REQUIREMENTS
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE THAT FOLKS FOUGHT A LONG
TIME TO GET AND THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SEEING THIS
THING MUCKED WITH. THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS
COMING INTO THIS SESSION WITH THE ETA. IT IS LAW. IT IS WHAT IT IS. PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE IT.>>YEAH, I THINK I JUST WANT
TO PUSH BACK ON A LITTLE BIT ON THE IDEA THAT ANYTHING THAT
IS TOO CLOSE TO INDUSTRY IS NECESSARILY BAD. I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
WORK IN THE RENEWABLE INDUSTRIES IN ANY KIND OF
ENERGY GENERATION, A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE THE MOST
TALENTED WE HAVE. THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF
EXPERTISE AND RESEARCH COMING OUT OF THESE PLACES. I THINK OUR JOB IN DOING
OVERSIGHT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING GETS SKEWED BY
ENVIRONMENTALISTS OR OIL AND GAS OR WHOEVER, OTHER ANY ONE
SIDE. SO, AS LONG AS WE ARE PAYING
ATTENTION TO WHERE THEY ARE GOING AND MAKING SURE THAT IT
IS NOT UNDULY SKEWED, I DON’T THINK THAT ANYONE SHOULD NOT
GET A SEAT AT THE TABLE OR BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.>>IT IS OUT THERE. WE’LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.>>ONE THING ABOUT THE PRC, IT
HAS GONE THROUGH A BIG CHANGE. A FEW YEARS AGO THE BIG WRAP
ON THE PRC WAS YOU’RE TOO CLOSE TO PNM. NOW IT IS GONE TO THE OTHER
SIDE. AND NOW THEY WANT MORE
SCRUTINY OF PNM AND IT SEEMS KIND OF WEIRD THAT IT HAPPENED
WHEN PNM IS NOW CALLING FOR COMPLETE RENEWABLE ENERGY.>>THAT BRINGS US TO THE NO. 2
STORY OF 2019, EDUCATION REFORM. GOVERNOR MICHELLE LUJAN
GRISHAM LAUNCHED HER EDUCATION MOON SHOT DURING HER FIRST
STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS. INCLUDED IN THE REFORM PACKAGE
WERE TEACHER RAISES, MORE MONEY FOR PROGRAMS FOR AT RISK
STUDENTS AS WELL AS THE END OF THE OLD TEACHER EVALUATION
SYSTEM AND GWYNETH, OF COURSE, THIS REFORM IS BEING PUSHED IN
LARGE PART BECAUSE OF THE YAZZI MARTINEZ CASE, AS WE
KNOW, WHICH FOUND THE STATE IN VIOLATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS FOR STUDENTS. THERE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGES TO
THIS ALREADY. WHERE DOES IT SIT NOW AND
WHERE ARE WE HEADING INTO 2020?>>I HATE TO BE IN THE
PROGNOSTICATION BUSINESS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO
WHO IS GOING TO COMPLY WITH THEIR LEGAL OBLIGATIONS, BUT
YOU KNOW, I AM VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. WE HAVE FOR A LONG TIME HAD
THIS DEBATE OVER SHOULD WE JUST THROW MORE MONEY AT IT. THAT IS THE SOLUTION. OR DO WE NEED MORE
ACCOUNTABILITY LIKE THE TESTING. ONE THING WE HAVEN’T REALLY
TRIED IS THROWING A WHOLE BUNCH MORE MONEY AT IT.>>GOOD POINT.>>I AM INTERESTED TO SEE HOW
IT WORKS AND WHAT HAPPENS. IT IS A GREAT LUXURY. WE DO HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND
AND I WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.>>HOW HAS THE MANAGEMENT OF
THAT MONEY BEEN SO FAR? A COUPLE OF BUMPS EARLY ON.>>I DON’T KNOW. I HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THAT.>>PLAINTIFFS BY THE WAY IN
CASE HAVE COME OUT RECENTLY WITH HARSH WORDS ABOUT THE
EDUCATION, HAVEN’T THEY? YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTING ON
THAT.>>WELL, I HAVEN’T PERSONALLY
BEEN REPORTING ON IT BUT I WAS JUST THINKING A YEAR AGO WE
WERE SITTING HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION HOW WOULD
GOVERNOR LUJAN GRISHAM DEAL WITH THIS AND SAID ALMOST
EXACTLY A YEAR AGO SAID I WOULD NOT APPEAL THIS
DECISION. IT’S INTERESTING TO SEE GOING
FORWARD WHEN SHE HAS TRIED TO FIX THIS AND THE PLAINTIFFS
ARE SAYING, NO, YOU STILL HAVEN’T, WE ARE STILL IN THE
SAME BOAT. DOES SHE KEEP NOT APPEALING
IT? YOU KNOW. HOW IS THIS GOING FORWARD. I DON’T KNOW.>>INTERESTING POINT THERE. YEAH.>>YOU KNOW, INTERESTING,
JESSICA, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THERE IS A LOT OF IMPATIENCE
IMPLIED WITH THE MOON SHOT, NOT JUST THE MONEY BUT THERE
IS A SPEED ISSUE. HOW IS THAT WORKING OUT?>>I THINK SOME OF THE
CRITICISM AT THE BEGINNING WAS IT IS GOING TOO FAST. WE ARE THROWING MONEY AT IT
AND IF YOU ARE LIKE ME, I SAY, THROW ALL THE MONEY AT IT,
BUT, THE MONEY THAT WE DID, WE THREW IT OUT THERE AND THERE
WASN’T REALLY A LOT OF GUIDANCE FOR HOW IT SHOULD BE
USED. WE UNDERSTOOD THERE IS GENERAL
GUIDELINES HERE IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO REACH BUT IN THE
CALMER VOICES SAY WE NEED A BETTER OUTLINE OF WHAT THIS
LOOKS LIKE LONG-TERM. WE CAN’T INVEST IN IT NOW AND
EXPECT TO SEE RESULTS NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER THAT,
IT IS A VERY LONG-TERM INVESTMENT. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE
EXPECTATIONS, RIGHT, SOME OF THOSE HARSHER VOICES ARE
ASKING, CAN WE DO MORE THAN JUST RAISE A TEACHER’S SALARY? YES, IT IS A CORRELATION
BETWEEN HERE IS A STRONG TEACHER THAT RESULTS IN A VERY
STURDY STUDENT WHO SUCCEEDS IN THE LONG-TERM, BUT ARE WE
TRULY ADDRESSING THE AT-RISK STUDENTS WHICH THIS LAWSUIT
WAS MEANT TO OR THE OPINION OF THE LAWSUIT WAS MEANT TO
ADDRESS?>>NOT CLEAR ON THAT ARE WE? WE HAVE WAYS TO GO ON THAT.>>INTERESTINGLY, THERE HAS
BEEN A MORALE PROBLEM WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE EDUCATION
BUSINESS STATE-WIDE. THE IDEA, TEACHERS RAISES,
TEACHER EVALUATION WAS A BIG DEAL FOR TEACHERS, A BIG HARD
FOUGHT THING. HOW DID YOU SEE THAT PLAYING
OUT AS IT WENT ALL THROUGH 2019? IS THAT PUT TO BED, SETTLED?>>I DON’T THINK IT WILL EVER
SETTLE COMPLETELY. PROBABLY GOING IN A GOOD
DIRECTION BUT, YEAH, THERE IS STILL SOME BUMPS IN THE ROAD
TO COME.>>ARE WE IN THE CLEAR ON THE
FIRING WITH THE NEW EDUCATION SECRETARY.>>YEAH, I HAVEN’T HEARD TOO
MUCH FALLOUT RECENTLY ABOUT THAT. I WAS ACTUALLY — I LIKED THE
FACT THAT GOVERNOR SAID, YEAH, YOU KNOW, SHE IS AN OKAY LADY
AND EVERYTHING BUT NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PROGRESS,
INSTEAD OF SAYING, SHE IS LEAVING TO SPEND MORE TIME
WITH HER FAMILY OR SOMETHING.>>I WAS GLAD THEY DIDN’T
GLOSS THAT OVER, EVEN THOUGH IT GOT HER CRITICISM.>>GWYNETH, THE IDEA I WANT TO
THROW THIS OUT TOO FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST YOU, BUT
THE FREE COLLEGE MOON SHOT OR SECOND STAGE MOON SHOT, I SAW
THAT AS ONE OF TWO WAYS. THERE WAS A SIDE THAT WAS
LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, FINALLY, THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE WAY NEW
MEXICO IS GOING TO GET AHEAD. BUT, THEN THE OTHER SIDE CAME
IN A FEW DAYS, WEEKS LATER. FOLKS ALREADY PAID FOR THEIR
EDUCATION, FOLKS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF PAYING. SOME ARE GOING, HANG ON HERE. WHO IS GETTING THIS FREE RIDE
AND THIS PERSON IS AND THIS PERSON ISN’T.
WHERE ARE WE ON THE FREE COLLEGE THING? WHAT HAPPENS?>>WE ARE ALL OVER THE MAP,
LIKE YOU JUST SAID. I TEACH HERE AT UNM AND I SEE
A LOT OF STUDENTS IN MY CLASSES WHO ARE THE FIRST IN
THEIR FAMILIES TO GO TO SCHOOL. I SEE A LOT OF STUDENTS WHO
ARE DESPERATELY STRUGGLING TO STAY IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THE
MONEY, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THE OLDER YOU GET IT DOESN’T
SEEM LIKE VERY MUCH MONEY, BUT IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM. I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF
TALENTED STUDENTS HERE WHO SIMPLY CAN’T GO TO COLLEGE
BECAUSE OF THE MONEY DESPITE THE LOTTERY SCHOLARSHIP. SO, DO I KNOW HOW THAT WOULD
WORK? NO, IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL IN
OTHER COUNTRIES.>>DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF IT
IF IT ACTUALLY WAS IMPLEMENTED, FROM YOUR VIEW AS
A COLLEGE PROFESSOR, ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA?>>WELL, YEAH. I MEAN, THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT
IS IT IS NOT JUST LIKE, OH, UNM JUST OPENS ITS DOORS,
ANYONE CAN WALK RIGHT IN. IF YOU OFFER FREE COLLEGE TO
EVERYONE, YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN YOUR STANDARD OF THE MISSION
AND MAKE SURE THAT STUDENTS ARE PREPARED. THAT IS THE PLACE WHERE WE
STILL STRUGGLE. WE ARE STILL DOING A MASSIVE
AMOUNT OF REMEDIAL EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS COMING INTO UNM. CNM IS BURDENED BY TAKING CARE
OF A LOT OF THAT REMEDIAL STUFF IN BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL
AND WHEN STUDENTS ARE READY FOR COLLEGE. THOSE PROBLEMS NEED TO BE
SOLVED PROBABLY BEFORE WE CAN MOVE AHEAD.>>THAT IS A GOOD POINT AND
GOES WITHOUT SAYING OUR SCHOOL BUDGET, BUDGETS FOR SCHOOLS,
HALF THE STATE’S BUDGET. A
HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE
AT SORT OF HOW WE LOOK AT MONEY. GWYNETH OPENED THIS UP BY
SAYING, THE ANSWER HAS BEEN FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, THROW A
BUNCH OF MONEY AT IT. THE MONEY HAS COME BUT NOW WE
CHANGE OUR POINT OF VIEW ABOUT HOW BIG IS BIG. IT IS AN INTERESTING THING WE
ARE GOING THROUGH.>>MONEY IS DEFINITELY A
CONVERSATION BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT TO DO THIS IT TAKES
LITERALLY THE ACT OF THE LEGISLATURE. RIGHT? SO, SHE ANNOUNCED THIS AND SO
I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE THIS ON THE CALL FOR
THE SPECIAL SESSION, NOT SPECIAL, THE 30-DAY SESSION,
BUT, YES, THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH IT, HOW
FREE IS IT? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING? DOES EVERYONE GET THE SAME
OPPORTUNITIES? ARE THERE SOME PEOPLE THAT
NEED EXTRA HELP MORE THAN OTHERS? I DON’T KNOW.>>THAT IS RIGHT, JESS, PRETTY
OBVIOUS QUESTION, THE OIL BOOM MONEY IS COMING. IT IS HERE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT LASTS FOR A
BIT BUT MAY NOT LAST FOREVER. YOU NEVER KNOW ON THESE
THINGS.>>THOSE VOICES SHOUTING
FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND POUNDING THE TABLE, THAT IS
THEIR POINT, WHICH IS, ALTHOUGH DESPITE ASSURANCES
THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A 10, 20 YEAR BOOM OR AT LEAST
CONSISTENTLY PRODUCE REVENUES FOR THE STATE, WE JUST NEVER
KNOW. A LOT IS DEPENDENT UPON MARKET
AND TECHNOLOGY, REALLY, SO, YOU KNOW, HOW CONFIDENT IS —
THE QUESTION IS HOW CONFIDENT IS THE STATE IN CONTINUED
REVENUE AND ARE THEY WILLING TO SUSTAIN, WHATEVER THEY ARE
GIVING TO EDUCATION, THROUGH THE POTENTIAL LOW POINTS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE LAST
BUST AND HOW HARD IT WAS TO GO BACK, WHEN YOU START SLASHING
THAT GETS PRETTY COMPLICATED PRETTY QUICKLY. SO, INTEGRAL AT LEAST TO ME
AND THE PEOPLE IN SOUTHEAST NEW MEXICO, IF WE ARE GOING TO
MAKE THE INVESTMENT, THEN IT IS A LONG-TERM PROMISE.>>NO DOUBT EDUCATION REFORM
WILL BE A TOP STORY FOR 2020 AND WE’LL BE TALKING ABOUT IT
HERE AT THE LINE TABLE AGAIN SOON. WHEN WE COME BACK, IT IS YOUR
TOP STORY OF 2019.

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