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Legislature Takes Up New Gun Control Proposals


>>NEW MEXICO IS NO STRANGER
TO GUN VIOLENCE INCLUDING A DEADLY SHOOTING AT AZTEC HIGH
SCHOOL A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO AND LIKE MOST COMMUNITIES
THE REACTION HAS BEEN A JUMP IN THE NUMBER OF NEW GUN
RESTRICTION PROPOSALS. NEW MEXICO IN FOCUS
CORRESPONDENT GYWNETH DOLAND VISITED THE ROUNDHOUSE THIS
WEEK TO FIND OUT WHAT LAWMAKERS HAVE COME UP WITH
AND WHY THE PROPOSALS MAY STILL FACE AN UPHILL BATTLE.>>REPRESENTATIVE SARINANA,
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
YOUR BILL THAT WOULD IMPLEMENT BACKGROUND CHECKS AT GUN
SHOWS. WHY DID YOU DO THIS? WHAT MOTIVATED YOU TO BRING
IT.>>I THINK THE MOTIVATION WAS
FROM ONE OF MY FORMER STUDENTS. I HAD A YOUNG MAN WHEN I
WORKED A VAN BUREN WHO CAME ONE DAY, HE WAS EXCITED ABOUT
MATH, LOVED SCHOOL AND ALWAYS DID HIS HOMEWORK. BUT HE CAME AND SAID, I DIDN’T
DO MY HOMEWORK. LAST NIGHT AT OUR APARTMENT,
WE HAD SOMEONE SHOOTING AT OUR WINDOWS. SO MY MOM RUSHED US UNDER THE
BED AND WE WAITED THERE AND THE SHOOTING WENT ON FOR WHAT
SEEMED LIKE FOREVER. WE HEARD POLICE AND HEARD A
KNOCK AT THE DOOR THAT SAID ALL IS WELL, YOU CAN COME OUT. WHEN HE CAME OUT FROM UNDER
THE BED, HE WAS LIKE FROZEN AND HE SAW HIS HOMEWORK, HIS
HOMEWORK, BUT HE SAID, I COULDN’T MOVE TO DO IT SO I
DIDN’T DO MY HOMEWORK. I WATCHED HIM THROUGHOUT THE
REST OF THE YEAR, HOW IT AFFECTED HIM. HE WENT FROM A VIBRANT STUDENT
TO A QUIET KIND OF WITHIN HIMSELF. NEVER WANTED TO SIT BY THE
WINDOW. WE HAD HUGE WINDOWS. BUT, FOR A TEACHER TO WATCH
YOUR AMAZING STUDENTS JUST KIND OF GO INTO HIMSELF IT WAS
SAD. SO, FOR HIM, I DO IT.>>I THINK A CRITIC WOULD SAY,
OKAY, THIS WILL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CLOG UP GUN SHOWS AND
WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A PAIN BUT THE BIG PROBLEM IS, IT
ISN’T GOING TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. WE DON’T KNOW THAT THOSE
PEOPLE WHO SHOT UP THE WINDOWS AT YOUR STUDENT’S APARTMENT
BUILDING GOT THEIR GUNS AT GUN SHOWS. SO, YOU KNOW, CAN IT REALLY
SOLVE THAT PROBLEM?>>WELL, IT IS A START. AND IT IS A TOOL FOR POLICE
OFFICERS, BUT THERE ARE MANY LAWS WE HAVE. THERE IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF
THINGS THAT HAPPEN AND WE CAN’T SOLVE EVERY ONE AND THIS
ONE IS A TOOL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. MANY LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT
IT. MANY DOCTORS, AND WE HAVE
PEOPLE ALL OVER THE STATE THAT SUPPORT IT, BELIEVE IT IS A
START. AND THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO
IS BEGIN SOMEWHERE.>>THE MAKEUP OF OUR
LEGISLATURE HAS CHANGED WITH THE LAST ELECTION. YOUR BILL IS SUPPOSEDLY ON THE
HOUSE FLOOR THIS WEEK. WHAT ARE ITS PROSPECTS?>>I BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO
PASS. I BELIEVE THE HOUSE — WE’RE
STRONG, WE HAVE GREAT BELIEF IN THIS BILL, I MEAN, I
BELIEVE WE WILL PASS IT IN THE HOUSE. SENATE, WE’RE NOT SURE BUT I
BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO PASS. I BELIEVE WE NEED THIS, NEW
MEXICO NEEDS IT. IT IS A GOOD BILL. IT IS A BILL TO HELP PEOPLE IN
OUR COMMUNITY BE SAFER.>>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
TALKING WITH US.>>THANK YOU.>>SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR
TALKING TO US TODAY.>>MY PLEASURE.>>YOU HAVE A BILL THAT IS
RELATED TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND GUNS. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO?>>WELL, WHAT WE KNOW IS IN A
HOME WITH PRESENCE OF A GUN AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THERE
IS FIVE TIMES MORE — IT IS FIVE TIMES MORE LIKELY THERE
WILL BE A HOMICIDE IN THAT HOME. THE INTIMATE PARTNER DEATH
REVIEW TEAM REVIEWS ALL GUN DEATHS IN INTIMATE PARTNER
DEATHS IN THE STATE AND THEIR NO. 1 RECOMMENDATION WAS TO
PASS A BILL LIKE THIS AND I AM WORKING HARD TO DO THAT ALONG
WITH DEBORAH ARMSTRONG.>>WHAT WILL IT DO? IS THIS LIKE THIS BILL ALLOWS
THE COPS TO GO IN AND TAKE SOMEBODY’S GUN ONCE YOU’RE
ACCUSED OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE?>>NOT AT ALL. WHEN SOMEONE HAS GOTTEN AN
ORDER OF PROTECTION AGAINST SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY ARE
AFRAID AND THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE TO A COURT THAT
THERE HAS BEEN AN INCIDENT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITHIN THE
LAST 30 DAYS, IT OCCURRED WITHIN THE COUNTY THEY ARE
SEEKING IT AND THEY HAVE CREDIBLE FEAR. ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THEN THE
JUDGE ORDERS THE INDIVIDUAL TO, WITHIN 72 HOURS, MAKE A
STATEMENT, A SWORN STATEMENT, THEY DO NOT OWN A GUN OR THEY
HAVE TO TURN IN THAT GUN. THEY HAVE TO TURN IT INTO LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.>>WHAT IF THEY DON’T TURN IT
IN?>>THEN THE POLICE HAVE
AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THAT ORDER AND GO SEE IF THEY HAVE
GUNS AND POTENTIALLY REMOVE THEM.>>THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO DO THAT FIRST.>>THEY DO, THEY HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TURN IT IN, TO RELINQUISH GUNS THEMSELVES AND
THE OTHER THING IS POLICE HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK ONLINE TO
SEE IF THEY ARE A REGISTERED GUN OWNER SO THEY CAN FIND OUT
IF THAT IS TRUE. HARDER IS THE UNREGISTERED GUN
OWNER AND THEY LIE. IN THOSE CASES WE AREN’T ABLE
TO GET THEM.>>IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
PEOPLE GENUINELY DOMESTIC ABUSERS. THEY ARE ALREADY BREAKING THE
LAW. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY ARE
TELLING THE TRUTH? AREN’T WE SETTING OURSELVES UP
FOR CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE POLICE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE
DANGEROUS AND HAVE GUNS?>>THE POLICE HAVE
CONFRONTATIONS WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS DANGEROUS AND HAS A GUN
EVERY TIME THEY GO TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL WITH
THAT HOME. AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE
PAPER IT IS A DANGEROUS PLACE FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO HAVE TO
GO TO A HOME WHERE THERE IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND A GUN
AND EMOTIONS ARE HIGH. WHEN THE EMOTIONS ARE NOT
HIGH, IT IS, SIMPLY, YOU HAVE A GUN WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE
IT. AND FOR A PERIOD OF TIME IT IS
REMOVED AND THEN THE PERSON CAN PETITION TO GET IT BACK.>>THIS BILL HAS PRETTY GOOD
CHANCES IN THE HOUSE. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE
THIS WEEK AND IF IT PASSES THERE, WHICH PEOPLE SEEM TO
BELIEVE IT WILL, IT COMES TO SENATE. WHAT ARE ITS CHANCES IN THE
SENATE?>>I THINK SIMILAR BILLS
PASSED TWO YEARS AGO BUT THE GOVERNOR, YOU MAY RECALL,
VETOED IT. I THINK IT HAS GOT A GOOD SHOT
AS LONG AS WE EDUCATE THE NEW PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT IT DOES AND
HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.>>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
TALKING TO US ABOUT THIS.>>MY PLEASURE, THANK YOU. IT IS WONDERFUL.>>SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR
BEING WITH US TODAY.>>YOU’RE WELCOME.>>THERE ARE SEVERAL BILLS
BEING CONSIDERED THIS SESSION THAT HAVE TO DO WITH GUN
RIGHTS. YOU REPRESENT AZTEC, THE SITE
OF A TERRIBLE SCHOOL SHOOTING A YEAR AGO. THIS IS PERSONAL FOR YOU AND
YOUR CONSTITUENTS? WOULD THESE BILLS, ANY OF
THEM, HELP PREVENT ANOTHER AZTEC.>>AS I UNDERSTAND THE AZTEC
SITUATION, NONE OF THE BILLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSED
WOULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING TO HAVE PREVENTED THAT SHOOTING. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
THE GUN USED IN THAT ACTIVITY WAS LEGALLY PURCHASED AND
UNFORTUNATELY THE YOUNG MAN THAT DID THE SHOOTING WAS
EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED AND HE WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE A LEGALLY
ACQUIRED FIREARM.>>ONE OF THE BILLS WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT WOULD REQUIRE BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR ALL GUN
SALES. WOULD THAT HELP PREVENT OTHER
SHOOTINGS, DO YOU THINK.>>WELL, THERE IS DIFFERENT
WAYS THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT. IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TRADE
SHOWS OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS, THEN, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE
HAVE THAT BACKGROUND CHECK IN THOSE INSTANCES, THERE COULD
BE SOME BENEFIT TO THAT. THE BILL, AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
THE BILLS OUT THERE CURRENTLY, I THINK WOULD REQUIRE
BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR PRIVATE TRANSFERS, ANY KIND OF
CONSIDERATION, SO, YOU TO ME, ME TO YOU, THOSE KIND OF
SALES, JUST FRIENDS, FAMILY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WOULD
ALSO REQUIRE BACKGROUND CHECKS. FIRST OFF, IT IS TOTALLY
UNENFORCEABLE. YOU CAN’T DO THAT, THERE IS
NOT A GOOD BACKGROUND OF DATA FOR WHO OWNS THE FIREARMS AND
WHAT THE SERIAL NUMBERS ARE. OLDER FIREARMS WERE NEVER
RECORDED IN ANY FORM OR FASHION AND CURRENTLY, THEY
ARE NOT RECORDED IN ANY DETAILED ACCESSIBLE DATA BASE.>>WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND TRYING TO KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS
OF THOSE WHO ARE AT THE GREATEST RISK OF HARMING THOSE
AROUND THEM. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
RESTRICTING THEIR ACCESS?>>THERE IS OPPOSITION TO
THOSE CONCEPTS. IF YOU HAVE A PERSON WHO VERY
LIKELY COULD BE TEMPTED TO USE A FIREARM IN AN INAPPROPRIATE
MANNER, THEN CERTAINLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STOP THAT. THERE IS LESS OPPOSITION TO
THOSE KIND OF RESTRICTIONS ON FIREARMS ACROSS THE BOARD
WITHIN THE LEGISLATURE.>>YOU HAVE A MINORITY IN THE
SENATE, REPUBLICANS, ALTHOUGH, IT IS NOT QUITE ALL
REPUBLICANS SUPPORT GUN RIGHTS AND ALL DEMOCRATS DON’T, IT IS
MUCH MORE COMPLICATED HERE. HOW DO YOU THINK THESE BILLS
WILL FAIR IN THE SENATE?>>IT IS PROBABLY VERY CLOSE
BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF RURAL AREAS. MANY OF THE DEMOCRAT MEMBERS
IN THE LEGISLATURE LIVE IN RURAL AREAS. THEY, THEMSELVES, GREW UP AND
ALL CONSTITUENTS GREW UP WITH FIREARMS IN THE HOME AND IT IS
A NATURAL PART OF LIFE FOR THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE AND THEY
ARE NOT GOING TO SEE THE ISSUE THE SAME WAY AS SOMEBODY IN A
RURAL AREA, THAT ISN’T IN THAT RURAL ENVIRONMENT SEES IT.>>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
TALKING TO US TODAY.>>THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

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