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Colorado Inside Out: October 25th, 2019 – Full Episode

Colorado Inside Out: October 25th, 2019 – Full Episode


“>>Hi, everybody.” Welcome to the October 25th 2019 edition of Colorado Inside Out. I’m your host Dominic Dezzutti. Thank you very much for joining us. Let’s get started with the quick take on President Trump’s comment on building a wall in Colorado. He later tweeted he was joking but not soon enough to stop it from making national headlines. A wall at the southern border of New Mexico is realistic but probably not effective. “>>I thought,
won’t tomorrow be” “fun, when I heard that.” He made the comment in a speech in Pittsburgh. And I know we’ve got transplants coming here. No one’s stopping them from coming from Santa Fe. He wants to save our culture. Donald Trump has spent time here. He got in a big fight with his wife in Aspen decades ago that made headlines. He wanted to redevelop union station. You would think he has not seen Colorado and realize we’re 500 miles from Mexico. The added twist is a fellow just featured will Hayden put up a GoFundMe campaign back in December as a joke to build a wall between New Mexico and Colorado. So clearly Donald Trump is paying attention to our media. “>>David, perhaps
this was part” of a PTSD reaction to him being stuck in an elevator in Colorado springs during the campaign. You never know what could have happened.>>Perhaps he was thinking about when the Texans attempted to invade Colorado via New Mexico but fortunately were turned back by the first Colorado volunteers. Undoubtedly a reference to that. Grownups when they say something stupid can just kind of let it go. “So in the 2008 campaign, Obama” “referred to the 57 states, and” “some people mocked him for it,” but at least he had common sense not to put a press release the next day explaining why he was right about that. “>>Eric, political analyst.” “Great to have you back, Eric.” So I think about the various reactions here and I get the idea of possibly being a joke but putting that out there later. The part that wasn’t a joke seemingly was that it got a standing ovation. The folks that stood for that “out in Pennsylvania,
but perhaps” there’s other stories in connection to this.>>Maybe geography should be mandatory curriculum in Pennsylvania. I think we’re jumping to conclusions around this table that he meant the wall to go on our southern border. There was no indication that it was necessarily that. Perhaps it was the keep the influx from Wyoming out. There were troublesome folks who have immigrated to this state from Wyoming and maybe that was on the president’s mind. We can save the stable piece for “another day, but to deal with” “the genius piece, I’m not sure” that was a hallmark of it. “>>Speaking of
business, if that” was promoted as a wall on the western border to stop darn from “folks coming in, John putting” down a few bricks. We don’t know where this wall was going to go. “>>We know this,
we’ve talked a” lot in recent years about President Trump trying to undo President Obama’s legacy by peeling back things done during his administration. This is the only time I’ve seen him trying to undo James Kay Polk’s legacy. These executive orders have really got to start.>>And we usually count on David for bringing some of that. To reference the administration of president Polk well done. That was fantastic. The Colorado attorney general released a report into an investigation into child sexual abuse by Catholic churches. Investigators said that no new cases of abuse found after 1998 but commented that records were incomplete. What it tells you about the current state of the diocese willing to cooperate and how the study was done did see telling. Do you think there’s more to come?>>There’s certainly more to come. You read stories about people who were victimized 60 years ago. They were kids. It’s appalling that it took this long for the Catholic arch diocese to deal with it. The fact that it took that long for it to become public is “appalling, that we now have a” “good report, good
for the people” “who are cooperating, bad that” the arch diocese didn’t feel like keeping records and instead would send bad priests all over. Unfortunately it’s not limited to the Catholic arch diocese. Boy Scouts are in the middle of this.>>It seems like this investigation comes from the “attorney general’s office,” attorney general Cynthia Kaufmann and Phil wiser part of and a former prosecutor in charge of that. This is an independent investigation. Do you think there’s more shoes to drop? “>>As many victims
come forward,” “right, so the
Colorado attorney” general’s office basically “raised some money, also got a” substantial grant from the Catholic arch diocese to hire an outside investigator. He was the head of the U.S. attorney’s office from 2016 to 2018 One of the things that was — they found no evidence — it “doesn’t mean it’s
not there, but” they found in indication of any abuse since 1998. And the peak period was the 1960s and 1970s and the most common type of victim were males aged 10 to 14 and that’s a pattern consistent with other places in the United States where in the Vatican — “post-Vatican two atmosphere,” there were some people in the church who took that as some kind of license to run wild sexually. The report has a number of recommendations for the church to improve its recordkeeping and “other processes,
such as hiring” a full-time victim services coordinator. And archbishop has said he’s going to implement all of those recommendations. “>>Eric, do you
think as far as” there’s countless issues when it comes to the Catholic church. There is not the only institution to have problems like this. It feels like a watershed moment for not only the Catholic church in Colorado but other organizations to at the very least do something about getting their house in order and implementing systems.>>There’s some indication of that around the country. When the story came out a few “days ago, so stunning, sad,” sordid. Here’s an institution where the whole mission of the institution is a pastoral mission. It is not limited to one person. There were a few particularly bad actors. Somebody named Harold White who I think was responsible for 65 of the 160-some that were documented. And he just kept getting from one parish to another when the heat got too hot. It’s inexplicable to me how “heads of the church, heads of” those dioceses could let that happen. But it was the pattern of the church. The story hit home a little bit for me. People like Patty and David might remember this individual. There was a state senator from “Pueblo in the 1970s, ’80s, and” 90s. His name is in this report with two credible charges it just “goes to show, you never know.”>>What do you think about the response? While I realize — I’ve been a life long Catholic. It’s limit to what an archbishop “can do, but
there’s got to be a” local response. What do you expect here in Colorado?>>I think we saw the local response. Archbishop came out and said we’re going to implement all of the recommendations. “That’s new record keeping, new” processing. I think the response was a very open and very quick one as they realized just the decades of malignancy that have gone on here. But I think we need to keep this in perspective. Two people mentioned this. There’s not a case that’s come forward in 21 years now. This has been an issue nationally for about 15 years “now, since allegations first” came up in Boston. I don’t think we would have heard about them. We are in a newly empowered culture where people speak out a lot more against things that are wrong. I don’t anticipate a lot coming forward from that time. “To what Eric said, nearly” two-thirds of the cases were the result of five pedophiles. That’s not to say this wasn’t wide reaching. We have 40 priests complicated #NAME? That is not to say we should not be giving absolute empathy and financial report to the victims who have gone through this. What they’ve gone through is terrible and is the result of an institution that couldn’t police itself. It’s also not to say that the Catholic church — they have to learn from this and see what went wrong and how it will never happen again. Let’s put this in the political perspective. If the Colorado government were “accused of misdeeds,
we would be” trying to tar the governor with those deeds. “I think we have to understand,” there were horrible things that “were done, but this is a” different place with different leaders in the Catholic church today.>>An important perspective. RTD may significantly cut routes due to a shortage of operators. Many drivers say they’re expected to work a 13-hour day for six days a week and face blowback from management for taking bathroom breaks or family medical leave. RTD has not been at a lack of problems. This one seems new and probably the one that’s going to have the greatest risk of reducing service. What’s the right response?>>Obviously to raise salaries. They have too few employees who are having to work too many hours. And it’s true. Unemployment is low. And therefore it’s harder to attract people at the salary they currently pay. What a business that has an ability to survive over the long-term is we raise salaries and then we get more employees in and then the current ones we have won’t have to work so hard. But they can’t raise salaries. And one of the key reasons is they’re $4 million in debt. And the most important single reason they’re in debt is the amount of cost overruns they’ve had on their light rail fiasco. They’re going to have to keep “raising fares,
which don’t come” close to covering their costs of “operations, and cut back” service. So you pay more and you get less. And that’s going to be a vicious cycle that’s going to get worse and worse. Ridership will continue to fall and RTD will become irrelevant. They poisoned themselves in the long term for their sustainable with the light rail boondoggle.>>This seems fairly significant and one of the loudest voices we’ve heard. While I don’t use light rail “buses that often, I don’t want” to be on one where a driver is compromised by not getting a bathroom break or a 13-hour day. I can imagine this isn’t inspiring folks to jump on the RTD bus or light rail.>>I think he has the right diagnosis. I’m not sure it’s the right prognosis. RTD is facing multiple problems. They have decreasing ridership. They have debt. They have obviously a human resources problem with how they’re treating their staff. They may not have any way around it. They need more hours and they don’t have a pot of money to grant higher salaries. I think it’s probably inevitable at some point that we see a tax increase proposal. Whether the voters buy in to it or not remains to be seen. I’m not sure if I want to be the one spinning it on behalf of RTD. It’s a tough sell. But there will be people in RTD that propose that as the out at some point. I don’t know if it’s the death “spiral, but it is certainly a” downward smile here. And what they need to do is what a private business would do in “this situation, which is some” degree of triage. Maybe not all routes are equal. You need to assess where you “have the most
ridership, demand,” and customer need and prioritize those. Just a thought.>>I was able to travel a little bit the earlier part of this month and in two big cities. “Like everybody else, whether” it’s in Denver or another big “city, just astonished at the” ease of transportation including Uber and Lyft. RTD has put out contractors to part of their routes. Some of the solution might be from the private sector. Do you think that idea might grow?>>To determine whether that’s a “solution, RTD has
to make a hard” choice of one of two routes. “One, if it wants to subsidize,” and I don’t think it’ll ever get “to 100%, but largely pay for” “service from fair
box receipts,” it needs to say we’re going to get rid of some of the inner city routes where people can’t “afford to ride
the bus, we have” to concentrate on getting people from Douglas or Jefferson County into the city. I’m not sure that’s what RTD’s mission is. “And if that’s
that case, we have” to think of a second alternative. Do we forego those routes and instead look for a different kind of subsidy? And I don’t know the answer to what that is yet. I don’t think a tax hike is going to pass for this. But do we look to get rid of routes where we can do other modes of transportation and focus on transporting the people who have no alternatives. I don’t have an answer there. I don’t think RTD can have it both ways. “>>Patty, what do you think?”>>I think maybe bungee jumping from Boulder will work. This is such a critical time for RTD which was set up to help people who didn’t have transportation in the city decades ago. And now you have this increased emphasis on not — especially in “the inner city,
on not driving,” “density, no parking.” You’re trying to get people to take alternative modes of transportation. In the winter in Colorado I don’t think the alternative is scooters. Buses still make the most sense as alternative modes of transportation. We need to look at how RTD can be saved and should it be save saved. Why not let people ride for free? You might as well see if people “would take RTD when it’s free,” because if no one will take it “when it’s free,
we really have a” problem.>>Denver city attorney asking about a dozen of the mayor’s appointees and confidantes to turn over their phone records. She wants to find out who leaked information about the renovation of the DIA contracts. Only reported on it after the administration’s press conference. “Eric, how to make
a bad problem” “worse 101, brought
to you by the” mayor’s office this week. Your reaction?>>I think you said it. “I think you said it well,” Dominic. I’ve been through DIA a few times recently. The place is not functioning all “that well, not to mention the” construction zone which is semi-inactive as we speak. I think ascertaining who leaked emails might be lower on my list than actually dealing with the core problem. “Kristen Bronson, the city” “attorney, I don’t know her.” She has a good reputation around town. But this wreaks of Nixon and plumbers. And it just doesn’t end up anywhere good. And even if you suss out the person who leaked this I believe “to Brian Moss at channel 4, so” what then? Deal with the core issue.>>And the fact that this was leaked before the administration was going to be talking about “it, this wasn’t
deep throat in a” parking lot. What do you expect from the fallout? “>>The fact is,
very few things” are not leaked before a “government is ready for it,” “whether it be the state, city,” or others. We’re in this profession to find information. Brian Moss was doing his job and apparently did it well. People are going to look at this “and say, seriously,
this is what” you’re concentrating on? I think the city was misguided because it got a lot of applause because it investigated and stopped the expansion of the convention center because of leaks from somebody that compromised the bidding process. This is public information getting out before the mayor wanted to get out. I would advise they work in a different area now.>>How should the mayor’s office handle this? “>>They should have said, we” don’t do this. We do not go after a source of information. It’s not like this story jeopardized the mess that’s already at the airport. Jane Doe coming in from Des Moines could have called up “Brian Moss and said, hey,” there’s something wrong at that airport. “We’ve all been
there all summer,” that a nightmare. We all have our issues with even the design approved in the first place. Shame on the city for going after it. Brian Moss was able to report the investigation first. So good for him on that. You don’t go after the leakers in a case like this when they’re putting out information that’s going to come out later anyway.>>Do you think the leaker investigation will go forward after the reaction we’ve seen?>>Yes. And let me be the lone one to stand up for the mayor and city attorney’s office.>>I hope they’re sitting down.>>They have a legal obligation to the airport bondholders. “If I were holding
airport bonds,” I would be a nervous fellow anyway for many reasons. But they have an obligation to “the bondholders, that the” bondholders find out the first or certainly not second. And so when they make a decision on one day and they’re going to “announce it on
the next day, you” don’t — it’s their legal obligation that the media or anybody else doesn’t find out before the bondholders does. So I think they’re properly fulfilling their legal obligations in this complete fiasco but at least they’re doing right by the bondholders in that regard.>>There’s a border wall in Colorado. Ed noted the Polk administration. We are living in the upside down. It is time for disgrace the week. “>>All you leakers,
don’t listen” to David. Feel free to call me at anytime. I’ll take all calls. Sea quest Littleton. We’ve had a woman go on trial. We have a protest there tomorrow. It was really a bad idea and maybe it might be time to close it up. There’s a protest tomorrow.>>David.>>I suggest if you want to call “Patty with a leak, don’t use” your government-issued cell phone to do it. And if you meet with her at her “office, leave your cell phone” there so it can’t location track you. For resolving a long-term disgrace or making progress on “it, the new acting head of the” bureau of land management has now announced a huge increase in how many wild horse adoptions they’ve had coming from Nevada and other states to deal with a very serious problem of excess population there.>>Eric.>>So many possibilities this “week, Dominic.” Let me go with some shadowy group called students deserve better which is a front for the Denver Teachers Association. They point out not one but two mailers people who attacking to have slightly different notion. Two of the three candidates happen to be Latina females. Not only were the mailers distortions of what they’re advocating. They decided to deLatina them by taking away their Latina name and white-washing their faces. This is our teachers union. They represent among the finest “among us, but they ought to be” ashamed.>>I’m still angry because as someone who has defended the First Amendment throughout my “career, I’m disgusting by Beto” O’Rourke’s proposition to destroy the First Amendment. “And you might say, he’s just” saying if churches don’t abide by what we believe is the right stance in gay and lesbian “issues, we’ll take away their” tax status. What if there’s certain speech we don’t like? What if there’s certain assemblies we don’t want to happen? This is totalitarianism at its worst.>>Something nice. Patty.>>Two public servants we lost this week. Judge Richard Sprigs and Dotty Wam. Always had a good sense of humor and good common sense.>>David.>>Just speaking of good public servants. “As usual, she was incisive,” “wise, and funny.”>>Eric.>>John Hickenlooper. Apparently there was a question asked among democratic activists about favors impeachment. Hickenlooper was a more reluctant hand in the air and pulled it down. There’s something to be said for a little bit of reticence here and keeping your cards close to your chest. You might be a juror. If you’re serious about a U.S. “Senator, you might
be a juror in” an impeachment case. Good for Hickenlooper for trying to maintain some impartiality.>>It’s not really complete because they will move a sixth of their company’s headquarters here now based North Americanly up in Vancouver. Great to see this company continues to add jobs to the local economy.>>A couple of my friends from high school joining us in the control room. Good to have you here. The tournament starts next week. Debate of Colorado’s public schools should have armed guards present throughout the school day. It’s going to be a great debate. “For everybody
here at CPT12, I’m” Dominic Dezzutti. Thank you very much for watching. Goodnight.

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